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California wants to ban self-driving cars, though it’s not sure why…

California’s legislature set out in 2012 “to encourage the current and future development, testing, and operation of autonomous vehicles on the public roads of the state”—but now, the state is poised effectively to ban such cars from the roads and highways. The Department of Motor Vehicles held a public workshop in Sacramento in late January and another in Los Angeles in early February to discuss draft regulations for autonomous vehicles. Though the rules won’t be finalized before the end of the year, the news so far isn’t good—for the cars. Under the cover of “consumer protection,” the DMV proposes to limit the rollout of autonomous technology by, among other things, barring its commercial use, precluding truly autonomous operation, and prohibiting private sale and ownership of self-driving cars.

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  • dance…dancetotheradio

    I don’t believe that self driving cars are viable.
    Especially in a Prairie winter.
    And the liabilities and potential for litigation seem endless to me.

    • That will be a dilemma.

      • dance…dancetotheradio

        During the average winter in Manitoba they routinely close the Trans-Canada Highway at Portage la Prairie when the weather is bad.
        There are gates that the RCMP close when they deem it is unsafe for travellers to be on the highway.

    • Bataviawillem

      Is that not the same for driven cars.

      • dance…dancetotheradio

        Who is really in control of a self driving car?
        That’s my main concern.

        • Bataviawillem

          The entity that sold the hard and soft ware, and I am sure that you stand a better change in lawsuit against them than against a uninsured drunk driver.
          You probably win in both scenarios, but will you get your money from the penniless drunk driver?

    • tom_billesley

      Can’t you see that little Hitachi with snow chains. The driver would have no problem getting in and out in a parka and there’s ample room for a snow shovel.

      • dance…dancetotheradio

        That’s another thing about electric cars.
        Not only does battery efficiency drop a lot at thirty below you still have to heat the interior somehow.

  • Frances

    Given all the drug use in California, I’d think self-driving cars would be a definite improvement to the present system.

  • Hard Little Machine

    They haven’t figured out how to massively absurdly overtax them yet but as soon as they do they will be lining up at the Oscars red carpet.

    • Oh they will..

    • Millie_Woods

      As the joke goes ‘if it moves, regulate it’.

    • tom_billesley

      It’ll be a mileage tax.

  • David Murrell

    When my wife and I see a peanut-sized car, like the little white car pIctured, we call it a “dumb car”, not a smart car.

    • dance…dancetotheradio

      I have to admit that I’ve wanted to test drive a Smart car just to see what it’s like.

      • V10_Rob

        Not bad for tooling around a cramped urban environment a low to medium speed, gutless for highways or freeways, and useless for carrying anything larger than a backpack.

        It fills a niche. The problems come from government busybodies trying to force everyone into that niche without any regard for local and personal circumstances. As in, we don’t all live in places with immaculately paved and cleared roads and the only tools we take to and from work are a Blackberry and a briefcase.

        • dance…dancetotheradio

          I had some econoboxes when I was in my twenties.
          A Datsun 510, a couple of Rabbits and a Hyundai Pony.
          My favourite car was a ’67 Chevelle that was just an everyday car.
          Graduated to other cars after I got married.

          • johnbrooks3

            Yup, had a B210 in high school, beat that!

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            I remember B210’s.

          • Shebel

            1967 Rambler American 199 cu.in of pure power. )))
            I drove it thru my teen age years and then gave it to my now BIL.
            It was the toughest death trap that I ever seen.

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            My Mom had a Rambler.
            I always wanted one.
            When my uncle accidentally burnt down the garage her car went with it.
            I used to love driving until I had to.
            Now I hate it.

          • Blacksmith

            Grandma had one and when we were kids we called it the hiccup car. I know now it was grandma’s skills with the clutch pedal but we used to love riding in it.

          • Shebel

            Me too.

          • Clink9

            1971 Superbeetle?

          • Clausewitz

            Toyota Tercel. It was like driving a Go-Kart.

          • Justin St.Denis

            LOL The memories! The Tercel and “hilly country” was always a challenging proposition.

            But I think the Ford Pinto takes the award for 1970s Shitbox Of The Decade.

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            Close second was the Chevy Vega.
            They used an aluminum block in that engine and when it warped there was no way to fix it.

          • Exile1981

            Mine was a ford escort 2 door hatch back.

          • Blacksmith

            Had an 81 with the 1.6 liter engine, It would burn rubber, though that led to clutch work shortly there after.

          • Exile1981

            Same as mine but it was a 83. On weekends in high school we used to pile 5 of us in it for the 350km drive to the city.

          • Blacksmith

            HA, Did you ever have the rear end aligned? They used plastic wedges to set the camber (?) I bet 5 people for 350k gave them a workout.

          • Exile1981

            I think so… that was a long time ago.

            We usually had me driving, my GF in the front passenger seat as she was the tallest passenger. Then one male friend and 2 female friends in the back. luckily one female friend was 5’10” and 98lbs. So it wasn’t too bad of a squeeze.

            This was pre seat belt laws. So in the summer months when the highway was ok we would head in at 7am when my male friend got off work. We would lay down the back seat and toss pillows and a couple blankets in the back for the 3 of them to stretch out and sleep for the drive in.

            Then we’d make the city by 10-10:30am and do some shopping, catch a movie. It was our big once a month escape from the small town life. 3 of the 5 of us were book worms so we always hit a couple of book stores.

            In the winter months we hit the indoor pool.

          • Blacksmith

            Those sound like some great memories.

          • Exile1981

            It was fun. I always got stuck driving as only 3 of us had licenses and I was the only one who could drive a stick.

            Given the way things are these days I’m pretty sure I’d not be keen on my own kids driving that far for saturday fun.

          • Dana Garcia

            I loved my Datsun roadster, but finding parts was impossible.

            http://datsun.org/roadster/news/images/datsunroadster_autoart1.jpg

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            That is a nice little car.

          • UCSPanther

            Personally, I practically worship 1990s-era Toyota Corollas. They are cheap on gas, very reliable and easy to work on for the do-it-yourself types.

          • Justin St.Denis

            OMG! I had a ’67 Chevelle, and I paid $125 for it, Beige and with blistering paint, it was the most dependable car I ever owned. My phone would ring off the hook (remember those days?) whenever there was a snowstorm. Nothing stopped that baby, and she boosted more buddies’vehicles than I care to remember. I kept her as a second vehicle until about ’82. Then I sold her for about $500. 😉

          • dance…dancetotheradio

            I bought mine in ’83 for $650.
            I only had it for a couple of years.
            The elbows at the back of the frame had nearly rusted through.
            Didn’t think it was safe anymore.

      • Shebel

        I always wanted to test drive a Vietnamese.

        • dance…dancetotheradio

          You sound like an English bartender I worked with twenty years ago.

      • Millie_Woods

        Short answer, you instantly feel superior to people driving SUVs.

        • Clausewitz

          Funny, the oh so superior folks who look down on SUV’s are always the first to ask for help moving shit.

    • G

      When I see a car like the one pictured I want to take a pair of fingernail clippers and slash the tires.

    • tom_billesley

      I call it a wheel chock for big rigs.

  • Brett_McS

    It’s too hard to outlaw Mexican-driven cars, so go after the robots. Typical. /Marvin.

  • Clausewitz

    California would rather have taxis because they can tax the income of a taxi driver. Until they can find some way to tax an Ap they’ll be against them.

  • Blacksmith

    Well it aint called commiefornia for nothin…..

  • simus1

    Just a subtle reminder from the bribee class to the briber class that their projects need to be more inclusive and free spending if “progress” is to be expected any time soon.

  • tom_billesley

    What disabled vets could aspire to (1946).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVYQp99vpig