Trump supporter speaks to media, on way out of “conservative movement”

From John Kluge at Ricochet:

It is not that I think Donald Trump is some savior or an ideal candidate. I don’t. It is that I cannot for the life of me — given the sorry nature of our current political class — understand why conservatives are losing their minds over him and are willing to destroy the Republican Party and put Hillary into office to stop him. All of your objections to him either apply to many other candidates you have backed or are absurd.

I don’t expect you to agree with me or start backing Trump. I would, however, encourage you to at least think about what I and others have said and to understand that the people backing Trump are not nihilists or uneducated hillbillies looking for a job. Some of us are pretty serious people and once considered ourselves conservatives. Even if you still hate Trump, you owe it to conservatism to ask yourself how exactly conservatism managed to alienate so many of its supporters such that they are now willing to vote for someone you loath as much as Trump.

I would also encourage you to stop insulting Trump voters. Multiple conservative journalists — Kevin Williamson to name one — have said, in so many words, that Trump supporters are welfare queens, losers, uneducated, and bums. I am a Trump supporter. My father is a Trump supporter. We both went to war for this country. My father spent 40 years in the private sector maintaining this thing we like to call the phone system. I have spent the last 20 years in the Army and toiling away doing national security and law enforcement issues for the federal government. Just what exactly have any of the people saying these things ever done for the country? Where do they feel entitled to say these things? And more importantly, why on earth do they think it is helping their cause?

I am sorry, even if you can convince me Trump is the next Hitler, I don’t want to be associated with that. I don’t want to be associated with a movement that calls other Americans bums and welfare queens because they support the wrong candidate. If I wanted to do that, I would be a leftist.More.

Reality check: The Republicans should have addressed the issues that made Trump a huge draw a long time ago. Putting down the people who are fed up is not exactly a winning strategy, unless they want to institute a multiparty system in the United States. This is how third parties have always got started in Canada: Top People think that a sneer is an answer. Now, every sneer does not result in a third party. But pile on enough of them, and eventually one of them starts the domino effect. Then Top People go on sneering, oblivious, as in the US today. And here in Canada we have ice level seats.

See also: The End of the Republican Party As We Know It (our American friend‘s exclusive take)

  • I don’t know what’s conservative about lying about the imagined benefits of a policy like free trade that impoverishes your fellow citizens or how unfettered immigration legal and illegal is a boon to anyone beyond those who wish to suppress wages through cheap labour.


      So called conservative factions were hi-jacked by globalist pigs in both countries, and indeed all over the world. Neocons are
      war-mongers and free-traders, because these two are the
      pillars of the NWO. The third pillar is global chrislam, as
      promoted by this Jesuite commie pope-on-the-rope.

      • Alain

        I beg to disagree about them being free-traders, or at least in the true sense of free trade. We haven’t even managed free trade between the provinces. It is more what I call corporate socialism.

    • Alain

      Bang on! I have been following a few discussions on Blogging Tories on what the CPC needs to do in order to have a chance of winning the next federal election, and the majority of those commenting give me little hope. Basically they argue that it does not matter that global warming/climate change/carbon taxes are just a scam, since to win the CPC needs to play along. Another widely accepted argument is that the CPC needs to win over the MSM. When I see people claiming to be conservative and advancing such arguments, I no longer bother commenting.

      • El Martyachi

        They’re liberal squishes and pretty much always have been. Cosmostein’s electoral calculus was worth reading in the run up to elections past… and not a whole lot else.

  • David

    Here ya go.

    • Excellent.

    • Yeah, the Reps were completely passive with Obama.

      • FIREBRED

        And still are. Just look at Ryano and McConman.

    • dance…dancetotheradio

      I love Dennis Miller.

  • If the only thing Trump does is clean the RINO house, he gets my vote.

  • andycanuck

    I don’t know how honest the reports are but it looks like Trump is walking back the tough on immigration stand (both inside and outside of last night’s debate) and that’s bad news.

    • We’ll see.

    • SDMatt

      Yes, that was troublesome. Then he tweeted today that he’s totally against H-1Bs, which seems like a flip-flop and therefore also troublesome.

      Megyn Kelly asked about highly-skilled immigration. The H-1B program is neither high-skilled nor immigration: these are temporary foreign workers, imported from abroad, for the explicit purpose of substituting for American workers at lower pay. I remain totally committed to eliminating rampant, widespread H-1B abuse and ending outrageous practices such as those that occurred at Disney in Florida when Americans were forced to train their foreign replacements.

      I thought Kelly used the words H-1B but I could be wrong. Is Trump saying the Disney case wasn’t H-1B? Because it’s sure been positioned as that in the press.

      Trump seemed tired – not a good night for him.

      • andycanuck

        I was just about to post that same comment, Matt, but hoping that exonerates Trump.

        Yes, the H-1B are the skilled ones; the H-2B are the unskilled ones and I think what Trump (claims!) he meant when he said he was softening his immigration position was that he’d be okay with the skilled ones. I don’t know if Kelly was misquoted, mistranscribed or if Trump used the wrong numeric???

        There’s also an argument being made that now that he believes he has the nomination sewn up, he’s turning to the so-called centre for strategic reasons for the general election. And many of the remaining primaries are also in more-liberal states.


      Realistically – the graduates of American educational system
      are semi-literate morons, who don’t know a s#it from shinola,
      so he is recognising this point and is pragmatically ready to
      permit for some exceptions to assure proper functioning of American businesses.

  • simus1

    When both Obama and the RINOs both went after the Tea Party upstarts to crush them into obedience, that pretty much outlined how the game is played in Washington.

    • Yes it did. Just as Rona Ambrose was quick to denounce Trump.

      • David

        The go along to get along crowd will be the death of us.

        PS: Mark Steyn on Rush Monday

      • dance…dancetotheradio

        Rona Ambrose feh.

  • Norman_In_New_York

    I guess you can characterize the Republican establishment’s response to Trump as, “The Empire Strikes Back.”

  • Clausewitz

    This election is no longer about Dem vs Rep, it’s about Elite insiders vs the Common Man. Sometimes a little Revolution is a good thing.

    • Justin St.Denis

      And with a history of political assassination, this could work for the USA. Unfortunately for Canadians, Canada has no such history. Changing anything about Canada would require violent revolution.