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Is crime genetic? Scientists don’t know because they’re afraid to ask

THE COUNTRY HAS made unprecedented strides in the fight against crime. Both violent and non-violent crime are way down from their highs in decades past. This is great news, of course, but the success could easily lull us into a false sense of security, believing that we have the problem solved. Indeed, what if much of what we know about the causes of crime is either deeply flawed or flat out wrong?

Imagine the trial of a new drug for an ailment that is as intractable as it is lethal. Researchers find 100 people with the disease and give the new drug to the first 50 patients who show up to the clinic. The next 50 trial participants are placed into a control group and given no treatment. The drug has a truly shimmering success rate.

h/t MA

  • Exile1981

    Interesting. Not that I trust anything coming out of the social sciences.

  • V10_Rob

    They’re not worried about society becoming complacent, or misdiagnosing something. They’re scared of PC.

    They know that any report… No, strike that, any raw data even… that suggests Ethnic Group X is more prone to criminal behavior (due to reduced empathy or any other factor) than white people, the Professional Grievance Industry will drop on them like a ton of bricks.

    • infedel

      “They’re scared of PC.” That right there is pissing me off…let all the western girls get raped and lose their freedoms because we have to tolerate the incoming intolerance…so what about all those years of reeducated youth for feminazi equality …well, they bow out, it is their culture NO NO NO…NO MULTI CULTI; too many problems; unity and assimilation or pack your bags.

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        And go where?

      • canminuteman

        Pisses me off too, but they keep voting for it so they must be happy.

  • There’s no solid proof that crime is genetic (plus it’s reminiscent of Nazi pseudo-science). There’s plenty of proof that crime can be cultural — “learned behaviour”.

    • tom_billesley

      Islam is a case in point.
      Of course, Islam could be regarded as a wider cultural expression of the genetically acquired character traits of Mohammed’s arab tribe..

      • level of Consciousness

        Learned behaviour that turns into genetic character traits/…

    • Drunk_by_Noon

      Not so fast there.
      It seems that who your parents are has a lot more to do with how well or not well you turn out, rather than how they raise you, assuming that they are not complete psychopaths.
      In other words, the bar for competent parenting is actually quite low.

      • infedel

        ..in part due to academia multiculti media corporate money..but mostly marxist crap….tribal societities cannot function in civil societies (see sci-fi tribes) the evidence is in your eyes …oh, and a trip downtown.

      • Exile1981

        I’ve met some wonderful well adjusted people who had good jobs, an education and came from absolutly diaster families.

        • Drunk_by_Noon

          Me too, and the reverse as well.
          Usually there is a very strong relationship between stupid loser parents and stupid loser children that trancends the stupid loser parents even being around.
          The greatest predictor of violent criminal behavior in men still happens to be an IQ of roughly 85. Any dumber, and you are too stupid to be a criminal, and any smarter you realize that crime isn’t a good life path.

          • Exile1981

            I’m not sure if Islam makes people violent or if it’s just that Islam attracts the violent predators because it justifies their actions.

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            1,400-years of cousin marriage made them stupid, Islam made them violent.
            They are the worst of all possible worlds.

          • Exile1981

            I always noticed that the really dumb kids at school were usually pretty content (the D and C grades), the smart kids were just going along doing their thing but it was the kids who were the consistent C’s and struggled to do that well who or get a single B who tended to be the bullies and the ones most likely to be vicious.

            I kind of figured that they were smart enough to know they were dumb and it made them angry. It’s been 30ish years since my school days and yet I have kept track of some of my classmates.

            Two of the biggest bullies have done time…. and the third is a cop. The one classmate who was a D student owns a mechanics shop, has kids and is happy. He turned out great.

  • Brett_McS

    Maybe they could research whether cowardice is genetic.

  • FactsWillOut

    What difference does it make if it’s genetic? The only way to “cure” genetic issues is by eugenics. So, the article is veiled support of eugenics.

    • Exile1981

      I forwarded the original article to a friend that is a geneticist. She said new research is showing that certain behavioural genes are inheritted in the mitocondrial DNA (so from mom only). So in the DNA ( so from both parents); but that enviromental factors can turn on and off some of those genes.

      She also said that the ethics review board does not allow cross discipline work with the social sciences for fear of the media labelling it eugenics.

      Personally I think the social sciences are too biased and can’t be trusted these days.

  • simus1

    It seems pretty obvious that most human brains function a lot better when productive effort keeps them quite occupied.

  • ed

    uk prison report 2014 shows 68% of prisoners have a close family member who has been charged and convicted of a criminal offence , ” just saying ” [ ed uk ]

  • Mal

    And so, in the end, what the unhappy researchers are discovering is that the rising mountain of evidence is showing that not only is I.Q. hereditable, but character and behaviour as well. Think about that.
    And then think about a culture that enthusiastically advocates the marriage of first cousins. Not only has consanguinity been shown to have an effect on health parameters, a study of 70 nations has found that it has a significant role in the discouragement of democracy.
    Now, what particular burgeoning demographic can you think of that manages to combine crime and erratic/violent behaviour, poor health, and an aversion to democracy into one yucky whole?
    Governmental elites have apparently decided that these are the very people to bring into our society and that the best way to do it is to force them in their millions down Western nations’ throats in a sort of social gavage.
    And the media wonders why we want to elect populist firebrands to burn them down?