Islam is not a religion of peace – Mark Humphrys at UCD

Opening

Mr. Auditor, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for the invite.

There are three atheists here tonight proposing this motion. I have here the hadith by Bukhari, Book 88, Hadith number 5, which says we are to be executed, but we’re not to be burnt. We should be executed in some other form. So you can look up Book 88, Hadith 5, if you want.So hopefully that won’t happen tonight. We’ll keep it civilized.

Now I’ve got a lot to get through. I’ve got a complex argument to make. So just bear with me, I might leave off on the questions.

  • Dang, I’m tempted to become an atheist — the Christian Church has yet to speak the truth about Islam like that.

    • Minicapt

      He’s following the lead and repeating the lessons of Robert Spencer and others, who speak on behalf of the Christian Church.

      Cheers

      • Although I’m not sure I agree with Humphrys’ “solution” — that the Internet is going to get enough Muslims questioning their faith to stop the violence. Maybe, maybe not — the Internet is a two-edged sword.

        • luna

          The other problem with his argument for optimism is we may not have 100 years. If civilization falls in 50 years criticism of Islam will not be tolerated.

        • V10_Rob

          The internet and social media has power, but it is NOT a replacement for actions in the real world.

          As for getting muslims to question their faith, that’s all well and good. I expect quite a few already do, they just dare not say it.

          I’ll settle for getting enough non-muslims questioning islam.

          • Jabberwokk

            Of course they question their faith. What he fails to take into account is that Islam is an enforced religion. You got questions? We got answers! Off with your head!

      • T.C.

        Soon the atheists will be taking credit for leading the charge when they were in fact the last to the party. And in many situations did much damage by repeating muslim taquiya as fact. But I suppose we should be grateful for the “progress” achieved…

        (The atheist facebook sites I visited did not contain deep
        philosophical discussions on the existence of god. But they sure contained a lot of misleading propaganda that could have been generated by the Islamic State. Or the KGB.) .

        • Jim Fox

          “Soon the atheists will be taking credit for leading the charge when they were in fact the last to the party”
          And your ‘evidence’ for this lie is?? Anyone who rejects belief
          in ALL religion is, in fact ‘FIRST to the party.’

      • Jim Fox

        Spencer, Geller [Jewish], Wilders, Condell, Dawkins, Hitchens, [atheists], Hirsi Ali [ex-muslim] and thousands of other heroes have
        all put their lives at risk in speaking out. The Christian churches and Vatican have submitted to islam big-time.

        • Minicapt

          You really should attempt something called “research”, rather than parrot what you think others have said.

          Cheers

          • Jim Fox

            You really should fuck off to Syria- or Iraq, or Pakistan or Afghanistan and live the wonderful life you desire.

          • Minicapt

            Trumpery.

            Cheers

          • Jim Fox

            Hate the truth? Cheers.

          • Minicapt

            Have a hoppy day.

            Cheers

  • Gary

    Justin is being played for a sucker by the islamists in Canada that told him that 99% of the muslims are peaceful and it’s just a few bad apples making islam look violent.
    But Canada only has about 0.004% of the total muslims on Earth, this means that the 99.996% outside of Canada should not be linked to the ones in Canada that claim to have the Peaceful quran and are the true muslims.

    It’s not a few apples Justin , the whole damn orchard has toxic trees that are killing the people that eat the fruit from them plus getting those around them killed as well during a suicide bombing.

    • Derek Lambada

      And the ones in Canada are free to follow the faith how they choose and be peaceful if they so choose. No Muslim has the freedom to follow the faith how they choose in an Islamic country.

      • Gary

        I’m glad you pointed out how the Toronto-18 muslim terrorists made a free will choice to practise their version of islam and had a plot to slaughter 5000 plus people via their Truck Bombs. The Al Quds rally each year is by the shia muslims that want sharia law in Canada to sanction child- bride pedophilia and flogging women.

        • Derek Lambada

          I wasn’t disagreeing with you.
          Many Western Muslims don’t fully implement the horrors of Islam.
          Non-Western ones often can’t even choose to not implement things.

          Idiot Canadians elected Trudeau, I didn’t.

  • iconoclast73

    I’m impressed this university allowed such a free honest discussion to occur. For those who wonder why so much religiously motivated violence – there is a good place to read what inspires the 10’s of thousands of islamists willing to sacrafice their own lives to take our at: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

  • Chatillon

    It is interesting that the speaker bases his optimism for the future on the undermining of Islamic confidence. The undermining of confidence through critical theory of cultural Marxism is exactly what has happened in the West. For this reason, the Church is obsessed with “dialogue” with Islam when it should be obsessed with presenting its historical message clearly to Muslims. Ironic that it takes an atheist to preach the “Gospel” of plain speaking.

  • disqusW6sf

    Interesting view – short term (in my life time) escalation of Islamic violence. His optimism for the long term (in a 100 years) is Islam will lose confidence in itself.

  • De Doc

    Unfortunately much of the atheist community is too attached to political correctness and unbridled multiculturalism. Those types don’t seem to get that their view dies, when Islam is ascendent.

    • zoroaster

      What data support your claim that “much of the atheist community is too attached to political correctness and unbridled multiculturalism”? All my anecdotal evidence opposes your claim. In addition, your claim is incongruous with the obvious fact that being an atheist in most of North America is the antithesis of political correctness.

      • De Doc

        Anecdotal and based on personal experiences within several local free thought and atheist chapters that I have belonged to, but I think I am not exaggerating. Thankfully with people like Dawkins, Harris, Maher at least there are some big names, who realize that Islam the ideology is exceedingly intolerant, misogynistic and retrograde. Being an atheist in North America is anomalous, but certainly not as bad as you claim. I suppose much has to do with how one approaches religious folk. And for all the nuttiness that some strains of Christianity present to us, I’ve yet to encounter any who wanted to machete me to oblivion because I don’t share their religious sentiments. Unfortunately for our secular brothers and sisters in the Islamic world, violence and oppression is the norm.

        • zoroaster

          You stated, “Being an atheist in North America is anomalous, but certainly not [so] bad as you claim.” My “claim” was, “being an atheist in most of North America is the antithesis of political correctness.” As one of many sets of data that support my claim, I’ll quote the latest Gallup Poll (which you can find on the internet): “Similarly, atheists enjoy broad acceptance from those who don’t identify with any religion, 91% of whom say they would support an atheist for president. However, this drops to 47% among Protestants, and is not much higher among Catholics (58%). As a result, the overall percentage [of American voters] who would vote for an atheist [for President of the U.S.] stands at 58%.” Stated differently, 42% of Americans (which is a dramatic decrease from data gathered just a few years ago) hold the opinion that being an atheist automatically disqualifies a person from being President; i.e., we are not politically correct. By the way, the same data set shows that even a Muslim would be a more acceptable candidate than an atheist.

  • Jim Fox

    Atheist since the age of ten- without knowing what an ‘atheist’ was!
    Devoutly Christian mother- horrible woman, cold, loveless and too fond of the rod.

    However, whilst finding Faith a ridiculous proposition, I have no hate for religion in
    general- except islam, the only one that wants me and billions of others DEAD.
    Atheists, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists- all must stand together against
    muhammad’s genocidal cult. We are allies, not enemies.