Ghomeshi trial

Bombshells from Ghomeshi defence?

Salacious entertainment is a more apt description. And yes I am riveted.

According to the lawyers nothing the victims did after the assault matters much at all.

The judge will consider each incident of alleged violence on it’s own as he determines guilt or innocence.

  • Ron MacDonald

    Battered wives respond similar to which these women did.

    • Ed

      I doubt battered wives write their husbands an email the next day after a battering to tell them they “want to fuck their brains out, tonight.” Or that they “love his hands.”
      I think Ghomeshi is an asshole too, but accepting Lucy’s defense as credible requires us to abandon rationality and simply accept, always, that women never lie.

      • BradThomas

        Supposing they’re both telling the truth, and he beat them up but they liked it, and then requested more the next day – is this a crime? And if it is not, do we really want our society to be such that consensual violence under the cover of sexuality, is acceptable?

        • Xavier

          Ghomeshi appears to be a scumbag who used his fame to entice women for violent sex, and at least some of them were compliant partners.

          Not my thing, but do we really want our society to set rules for what is acceptable in the bedroom?

          • BradThomas

            Perhaps not. Allowing the government the right to intrude into our lives in this way is a dangerous and slippery slope. But still … violence? Where does one draw the line? When strangulation for sexual pleasure results in death, perhaps.

            We know that police will press charges against a battered wife on her behalf even when she tells them not to, that she fell for the hundreth time and wasn’t assaulted. I’m not clear that this is a fundamentally different situation.

          • Waffle

            These women were not wives — married or common-law. If not just a one-night stand, they were just “f**k buddies”; no comparison. BTW, S&M (in varying degrees) is a hell of a lot more common than you think Why do you think that “Fifty Shades of Grey” has found so much resonance, particularly among women?

          • BradThomas

            I’m not understanding why being married makes the analogy break down. Suppose the wife wants her husband to abuse her (maybe she has psychological issues, or maybe SM is what excites her or maybe she’s just a masochist). Regardless, society has implicitly taken the position that it is going to “protect” her even if it is against her will. Is it a stretch to say that the same protection should be offered to someone in a situation like deCoutere appears to have been in?

          • Waffle

            Seems as if Lucy aggressively pursued the “relationship”. Ghomeshi, if anything, was rather lukewarm to her advances I know it’s not very PC to say it, but when women start acting like men, we deserve what we get. If you don’t like getting slapped around find somebody else and stop behaving as if your actions have no consequences.

            I think that Jian ultimately blew Lucy off and she decided and possibly conspired with Witness #3 to “get” him. That is probably what the new disclosure is all about.

            Do not get me wrong. I think that consenting to violence in the bedroom is very sick behavior. If you are a woman in such a situation and you do not get out, you are only inviting more. If it is a dating situation, there are absolutely no excuses. If you are married with children, it is complicated but not impossible.

          • Xavier

            I understand your point, and I do not know where we draw the line. Perhaps we begin by taking a hard look at who we allow to judge us and how laws are being interpreted.

          • ntt1

            this is a possible extension of that travesty into further parts of our laws. It seems so far that everything was consensual and the two witnesses, so far, wanted further contact with Ghomeshi. If Ghomeshi is convicted on the “buyer remorse” of the two women, it will effectively enable the conviction of all men on the whim of a woman. while this is exactly what the feminist fascists want, ,the question is; can our society with stand the potential criminalizing of i/2 its members?

          • El Martyachi

            .. heard this somewhere before

        • H

          What about boxing – should that be illegal? If the two people agree to it, what’s wrong with a certain level of violence?

          • ntt1

            interesting that ice hockey is making moves to criminalize “excessive” contact.

        • canminuteman

          We accept consensual violence all the time. we just call it “sports”.

          • Xavier

            Isn’t there something like that going on this weekend?

          • canminuteman

            I was at my weekly fencing practice on Thursday, and have tickets to the Oshawa Generals/Soo Greyhounds hockey game tomorrow night.

    • BillyHW

      Reason #1 women shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

  • Timshel54

    How in hell did the Crown not ask Ms.DeCouttere
    whether or not she had received or initiated any contact with Ghomeshi after the alleged offense during their interviews with her??? It seems like a logical question for any attorney to ask.

    Or did they know but thought it wouldn’t matter?

    I’m with Blatchford… I doubt you’d find anyone who sabotaged their own case quite like she has.

  • Waffle

    “DeCoutere said she did not mean she wanted to have sex with Ghomeshi when she said she wanted to “f— your brains out.”


    Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining.

    As I said before, I bet the whole farce gets terminated on Monday. Finis, game over.

    • marty_p

      I have come to the conclusion that the outcome was predetermined and the Crown is intentionally sabotaging the case. Without sounding like some conspiracy nut – there must be something going on behind the scenes as I can’t/don’t want to believe any Crown attorney is that incompetent.

      • Waffle

        I think you are absolutely right. Something else is definitely going on. However this is not the first time the Crown has pursued a politically-motivated agenda. Remember Karla Homolka? They had the chutzpah to present her as a battered woman. Sad thing is, people bought the b.s. She should have gone away for life.

        I can only hope that Christie Blatchford uses her platform to let women know they cannot abuse the courts to seek retribution for their own silly behaviour or to get revenge on creepy guys. Ghomeshi is a self-confessed sadist. There must have been other witnesses who are more credible. Interesting that the Crown didn’t choose to put any of them on the stand, at least not initially. Again, it will probably all end on Monday. The CBC sounds like a very toxic environment — lots of bodies under the bus.

  • DD_Austin

    What do you get with CBC culture and 1 billion in tax payer money

    “Casting coach sluts and Prevert Producers”

  • Solo712

    Lucy DeCoutere is a disgrace to the Canadian military. She should be stripped of her rank and dishonourably discharged.

  • mauser 98

    CBC Toronto Liberal elite exposed ..
    degenerate perverts the whole lot of them
    and they tell us how to live

    • Exile1981

      I was thinking that this seems to be showing off the types of people that are the liberal elite.

  • Jay Currie

    There seems to be a sense that these charges were brought in something of a rush. Given how serious a charge of sexual assault is for both the accused and the accusing, a little more investigation and a little less haste would have helped…a lot.

    Ghomeshi may very well have been a creep but he is now a creep with a very good defense lawyer.

  • BillyHW

    Lol, woman’s suffrage!

  • Edubeat

    The ‘cult of celebrity’ starring Justin, Gian, Mike,Pammie and a cast of thousands coming to a theatre near you

  • UCSPanther

    This trial is going to be a circus. Put on the circus music and send in the clowns…