Briman Prison Jeddah Saudi Arabia

British grandfather facing 350 lashes in Saudi Arabia for making wine

A British grandfather is facing a punishment of 350 lashes in Saudi Arabia for making home-made wine.

Karl Andree, 74, was arrested in August last year when police found bottles of wine in his car.

He has already served 12 months in Jeddah ‘s brutal Briman Prison, which has a reputation for torture and inhuman conditions.

  • Dana Garcia

    Maybe a prisoner swap could be worked out with Beverly Hills. Apparently there are plenty of misbehaving Saudis there.

    • infedel

      Behead them; like they do to us there as we pump their oil.

  • dance…dancetotheradio

    ‘e does not look Henglish.

  • JJ Joseph

    I can’t resist asking: What was this idiot doing in Saudi Arabia making home-brew? Don’t get me wrong, I feel for his plight. But, really, what was going through his mind? Did it seem like a good idea at the time?

    • infedel

      What are saudis thinking having sex slaves in the West.

      • Shebel

        They are thinking about the perpetual Virgins an Allahland.

    • H

      He had been there 25 years so he may have thought he knew how to avoid detection. Also, the guy’s had cancer 3 times and his wife is dying of Alzheimer’s: he probably was so desperate for something to alleviate his discomfort that he judged the risk to be worth it. After a year in that prison, he has perhaps changed his mind about that.

      • Blacksmith

        AH, I should have read the article I see.

    • Blacksmith

      I was thinking the same thing, I don’t think I would have said it so politely. He had to know he was in Saudi Arabia right?

    • Mannie

      When I was there, everybody made home brew. There was a locally made moonshine called “Siddiqi.” It translates to “My friend.” I have seen people wearing “Siddiqi is My Fried” T shirts, in the old ARAMCO compound.

  • infedel

    Ban islam in the West–it is a one way street; no churches in islam lands so no mosques here…hey left equality for women and tolerance — islam is a hate book.

  • HRT

    JJ Joseph – there is plenty of home brew made in Saudi. Several guys in my time there made a lot of money from doing so. I was once at a party attended by a Saudi businessman – he brought two bottles of scotch.

    The well connected don’t have a problem with the rules which the peasants face.

  • Shebel

    I am so sick and tired of hearing about DUUall citizens being maltreated in the Home land.
    Tough shit baby. I really don’t care.

  • AlanUK

    Bottles (either 4 or 6 depending on who you believe) of his homemade wine were found in the boot of his car. Saudi Arabia has strong laws against both making and trafficking alcohol. Looks to me the guy left himself wide open to 2 serious charges. He should have known better.

  • HalcyonDaze

    Problem is that we when the Muslim’s come over here, we want them to follow our laws but, they end telling us to go screw ourselves because, we as a society don’t have the spine, political will or an intelligent enough Supreme Court to enforce our common sense rules which in the end makes us look like an ineffectual bunch of cowardly sycophants ripe for the picking..
    So, maybe instead of belittling Saudi Arabia for actually enforcing their archaic and mid evil laws and not changing them to appease foreigners we should be applauding them and doing exactly the same thing when it comes to dealing with their religious brethren who come over here and demand we become dhimmi in our own lands.
    The guy is an idiot if he thought he could get away with breaking Saudi law because of his dual citizenship which is something I’d be extremely happy to start see happening here especially when it came to dealing with the influx of immigrants who want to us to abdicate our own values and beliefs to accommodate theirs..

    • Shebel

      May God Bless you Sir—-

      You post with the same words that you speak. Honest and true.

    • canminuteman

      Westerners who go and live and work in Arabia are traitors who are aiding and abetting evil. If the westerners didn’t run all their technical things for them arabia would still be nothing more than a sand dune. and islam would be no threat to the west.

  • Shebel

    If they had found a couple of 7 year old baby girls hidden in his trunk— the Saudis would probably have given him a medal— for the Glory of Allah.

  • phuque uguugle

    Sorry, but is he stupid or what? No sympathy here mate or there.

  • Mannie

    He had the stuff in his car. That is Darwinian Grade Stupidity is Saudi. When I worked there, all our compounds, we called them villas, had a winery or a brewery. You could buy hops, malt extract, and brewer’s yeast at Jewell, and they were next to each other on the shelf. The Saudis wouldn’t dream of snooping inside your compound. They are an incredibly private people.

    But for Gawd’s sake don’t make it easy for them, and don’t be drunk in public.

    We had one idiot, they threw him a retirement party; with booze of course. There was a bottle left over, and he tried to bring it home to Scotland. (Where they grow the stuff) He is probably the only case on record, of someone convicted of trying to smuggle booze OUT of Saudi Arabia. He got two years in the slammer. Saudi jails are bad. We had to send him food. They don’t feed you in prison.

    • Shebel

      Hahaha— Did he really get 2 years ?