So I upgraded a Laptop to Windows 10

On the sage advice of Drunk By Noon… I decided to try the upgrade late last night, because I always do these things late at night, too late at night. I don’t know why.

Even though it was a properly activated and eligible for upgrade OS version I still hadn’t received the little Windows taskbar notification.

So I had to use the Windows media creation tool, you can download it here.

I downloaded the files made a disc and ran the upgrade exe. No problems at all on a Toshiba laptop running an AMD chipset.

I haven’t had a lot of time to play with it so far, but Microsoft Edge, the new browser runs fast.

Wifi Sense seems a little spooky however.

I will wait a bit before upgrading my main box.

PS. As of midnite tonight I will be without Power… Turns out Hydro was never properly connected to the condo resulting in periodic outages and the frying of electronic equipment etc.

They hope to have it fixed by 4 AM.

PPS. 6 am Sunday morning is the rumoured election announcement.

  • ntt1

    Good on ya Fur. I am about to tread that path myself

  • El Martyachi

    Um.. take a hard look at settings, privacy BTW. That aside, it fucked my flight sim and the built-in mouse button no longer works. Other than that A-OK-USA

    • OH my. I will poke about.

    • Drunk_by_Noon

      If you have a Logitech mouse, just grab the latest drivers. My middle scroll wheel works just fine.

      • El Martyachi
        • Drunk_by_Noon

          Hey, that’s my last laptop!
          Lenovo X220 ThinkPad.

          • El Martyachi

            The one I’m having the button problem with is a dell actually, but with the same button config.

          • El Martyachi

            And since we’re on about thinkpads… they stopped being workhorses for me after the Lenovo buyout. I tried, but they’re just not up to the same standard as Big Blue. About a month ago my frankenstein t60/61 workhorse vintage 2006 packed it in. That machine had both the IBM and Lenovo branding.

            oh and BTW.. I went to Big Box Office Supplies Store a couple days ago and looked at the display notebooks. What’s with the low res LCDs?!? My 10 year old thinkpad was 1650×1080 .. I’m typing this into a 5 year old dell with a 1920×1080 display. A lot of the new machines seemed to be < 1400×900 ??

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            I have owned a few Lenovo laptops since about 2008 and I have yet to have one die on me. I have heard the complaints from others but I have yet to see any problems with them personally. In fact, I still have all of them and other than replacing the batteries every four years, and upgrading all of the hard drives to SSDs, they all still work astonishingly well.

          • El Martyachi

            I got the x120e, admittedly a low end machine, and found it to be generally crapola. It was cheap though. Have owned T30, R60, T60/61, x120e. The Dell Latitude is my mainstream line of choice now.

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            The 60 series IBM Thinkpads have a cult-like following.
            I never owned one, were they really that good?

            The X220 is awesome!
            I have dragged that thing all over The UK and Scandinavia and then my son took ownership of it for a bit over year to use in the Marine Corps.
            I paid extra for the good screen and an i5 CPU, and then jammed an Intel micro SATA SSD hard drive into it, a second 1TB hard drive, and then bumped it up to 8GB of RAM, which isn’t too bad for a 13″ laptop.
            It would happily run the entire Adobe creative suite as well as most desktops.
            Good battery life too with the regular one, but with the extra additional 9-cell bottom pack, the battery life went to about 16-hours of continious use!

            Compared to a Mac Book Air the thing is a pair of sensible shoes, but it hasn’t ever given me a problem.

          • El Martyachi

            The 60 series IBM Thinkpads have a cult-like following.I never owned one, were they really that good?

            If I say no they’ll kill me.

          • Drunk_by_Noon

            Then they must have been good.

          • El Martyachi

            BTW.. fix for fuzzy fonts. This fixed two applications for me.


          • lolwut?

            Thinkpads are used by NASA on the space station and the Shuttle before that. They’re also popular with pilots and boaters.

            Toughbooks are second but those are just Panasonic’s in a hardened case. Police services tend to use those.

  • Xavier

    Um you are aware that the “free” upgrade version tracks *.everything – to the point that makes Google seem benign?

    MS has outgoogled Google this time.

    • Drunk_by_Noon

      You can turn all that stuff on or off.
      If you are a total social media creature, I’d take a second look at all of my security and sharing settings, but for most people it’s not that bad.
      Besides, did you know that if the Feds want to (or any capable nation state’s intelligence services want to) that they can hack your router THROUGH your own power lines?
      Yeah, cool trick there!
      Thanks NSA!

      • luna

        That sounds like tinfoil hat talk, unless your routing network traffic through the power lines (power line extender). Despite sounding crazy, it clearly is possible.

        • Drunk_by_Noon

          No, this is without using any power line network extenders and can be done with some DSL and Cable modems.

        • lolwut?

          If you can get close enough, you can pick up whats being displayed on a screen.

          Back when CRT screens were still a thing you could actually buy the tools for picking up leaked signals to reproduce on a remote screen.

          Either way, All the big ISP’s and companies are cooperating with governments and spy agencies anyways.

          CSIS is Vancouver has an office directly above Telus internet and phone servers in Tower II at Metrotown in Burnaby.

          I discovered that accidentally when I got off on the wrong floor, the doors were all open so I took a stroll around
          cables were fed up through the ceiling into the CSIS offices above.

        • Drunk_by_Noon

          I was thinking the exact same thing.
          “Tin foil hat talk”, but apparently it’s a feasible means of hacking many modems and routers.

      • Xavier

        Are you talking about the free upgrade or the retail version? The articles I’ve read say the feedback to MS cannot be turned off on the free upgrade.

      • El Martyachi

        If they’re in your neigbourhood, close enough to be between you and any transformers, ya got bigger problems.

      • dance…dancetotheradio

        They can’t do that unless there is a hardware connection to exploit.

        • Drunk_by_Noon

          Actually… not so, unless you mean certain types or routers and Internet modems.
          I guess you could thwart it by sticking an AC to DC converter (and then convert your DC back to AC with an inverter) between your router and the wall.
          Honestly, I don’t think it’s really a concern for the vast majority of the world, as they have much more efficient ways to know what you are doing.
          I was merely saying it’s more than just a theoretical threat.

    • I work on the assumption everything I write is hoovered.

      • andycanuck

        I knew you were going to say that!

      • Xavier

        Because you’re a troublemaker.

    • alexb

      i did the upgrade today and everything looks fine.
      if you are worried about tracking read this then have at it.

  • Drunk_by_Noon

    I have since upgraded almost all of my home computers to Win 10 and other than the failing graphics card in my main computer (not Microsoft’s fault) I and shockingly pleased with Windows 10.
    The newer the computer, and the cleaner the state that it is in, will make a huge difference as to how easy it goes.
    The recent or latest generation Intel i5 graphics out putting to a flatscreen TV are really outstanding.
    I will upgrade my last device (Lenovo X220 laptop) in another week after I get some more school stuff out of the way.

    I’m pretty jaded about Microsoft releases, but I have to say that Windows 10 is like looking at “the future” or what we thought the future of computing was supposed to look like.

    Now I have to go to Amazon and order a new graphics card because the old HD-5770 finally bit the dust.

  • bob e

    i use linux & win 7. not payin’ another dime to b gates even if he tells me
    where the body of the man who actually wrote DOS is buried ..

    • lolwut?

      Windows 10 is free……. well kinda. the full nickle and diming scheme has yet to reveal itself.

  • Xavier

    I don’t want to switch to Linux but it looks like I’m going to be forced to.

  • David Murrell

    Cat, you did the upgrade late at night? You truly are one brave soul!

  • Hard Little Machine

    I’ll wait a few months. Thanks for shaking loose the inevitable 8 zillion problems though.

  • lolwut?

    You really should wait until the first service pack drops on systems that are important to you…

    I gave it a shot, found Windows 10 sluggish and the interface is way too white and flat
    difficult to see clickable items on windows. I prefer the classic settings in Windows 7.
    it’s snappy and things are easier to read.

    Decided to roll back using the option in settings and it promptly destroyed my Windows 7 install and forced by system into an endless blue screen reboot cycle.

    I’ll stick with Windows 7 for now. It’s got full support until 2020 and extended support for security patches well beyond that.

    Windows 10 looks pretty scary compared to even Google when it comes to watching what you do, I’m sure we’ll be reading about a ton of stuff about
    security issues not actually turning off when you turn them off and plenty
    of hidden spying that’s not apparent.

  • Ron MacDonald

    I’ve made several attempts to upgrade my Toshiba Z830, all have failed.