Sorry, unions: Fast food kiosks are making the minimum wage debate (and some of your members) obsolete

It’s always been true that raising the minimum wage raises unemployment, as employers are forced to fire workers they can no longer afford.

  • Since many fast food joints are now wholly staffed by foreign nationals with ‘temporary’ work permits; the sooner we can price them out of a job, the better. The fast food industry model has been using a form of ‘slave’ labour for far too long. Time to get automated.

  • Allan

    What about the workers that are already worth $15 an hour. Won’t they want a raise too?

    • The Butterfly

      True, it really sucks when people less productive than you are making the same as you.

    • barryjr

      I wish it were so, my wife worked housekeeping in a hotel and she was making $3/hour more than minimum wage and eventually minimum wage caught up to her. The bottom of the pole catches up to the rest without anybody else benefiting.

      • dance…dancetotheradio

        As a department manager, in a hotel ten years ago, my base salary was $10.50 an hour plus grats and my staff made $7.25 an hour plus grats.
        They will eventually converge.
        I had an assistant manager and two supervisors, too, and they will converge sooner.
        What’s the incentive to get them to take the job?
        What could I offer them as a reward for extra hours and greater responsibility if they were making almost the same money as the worst performing worker there?
        Minimum wage laws are a hidden tax on lower and middle level managers.
        To save money, hospitality companies will pay their managers and supervisors less money for longer hours.
        How can they do this?
        People who take on more responsibility are more likely to have family responsibilities, too.
        That makes them less likely to move to a different employer.
        They are stuck.

  • Dana Garcia

    Good of Ezra to notice the immigration component of automation, although it doesn’t hurt to go further and say smart machines make importing foreign workers totally unnecessary (as if they were ever Needed except to save labor costs).

  • Hard Little Machine

    This has been the ongoing arms race in agriculture for years. To be able to mechanize the stoop-labor for each specific crop is a big complex engineering problem. Raisins for instance are incredibly labor intensive while almond trees are not. Tobacco is extremely hard to automate the cultivate the production of. But when they do millions of illegalitos will no longer have a viable option to be here.

    • dance…dancetotheradio

      Raisins are hard to harvest because first they have to be grapes.
      And tobacco is becoming obsolete because the government is taxing it out of existence.
      Twenty one days without nicotine of any kind.
      A pack a day at $14.50 per pack equals $304.50.
      If government takes ten bucks a pack then they’re gonna have to raise $210 more from non-smokers to cover the taxes they have lost from my quit.
      Congratulations, sin taxers!
      I just gave myself a raise and you have to pay for it.

  • BillyHW

    Most people are actually useless.

    • disqus_W6sf

      words of wisdom

  • DMB

    It won’t just be the people earning the minimum wage that will be hurt by this it will be the people who earn approximately four dollars an hour more than the minimum wage since inflation will make there wages worth less.

  • Elephant in the Thread

    I say bring on the automation of jobs. Then we can stop importing people in to Canada to do the jobs these jobs and stop the Great Replacement.

  • ismiselemeas

    Bring it on. We’re now wholeheartedly entering the “leisure age” and I for one am looking forward to it. Immigration should dwindle to nothing, pointless and unproductive jobs will vanish, there will eventually be fewer people and those that survive the transition will be better educated. There will hopefully be less strain on the environment and superstitious shit holes like Pakistan, India and most of Africa will be forced to contend with a new reality that makes their stone age, retrograde cultures irrelevant if they don’t actually get wiped out by religious extermination or a mutated virus in the meantime.