Permanent HOV toll lanes? We’ll go crazy

Canadians from outside the Greater Toronto Area tell me they’re getting tired of Toronto folk complaining about Pan Am traffic headaches.

When I go on Ottawa radio station CFRA, hosts tease me about it.

Columnists from out of town e-mail to ask if it’s really that bad.

They should spend an hour — or three — inching along beside a temporary HOV lane.

  • Doug Kursk

    …and now milquetoast Tory wants them to be HOT lanes….high occupancy toll lanes.

    Newsflash to the leftist braintrust…those routes are already heavily taxed courtesy of the hardworking Toronto/Ontario taxpayer.

    Tory is just another CINO whose idea of “doing things differently” apparently means doing things EXACTLY like the champagne tax and spend Jr. Communists on T.O. city council.

    John Tory is governing exactly like many thought he would.


    • Ontario’s political class – all the same people doing all the same things all the time.

      • simus1

        Sharia John is full of ……….. bad ideas.
        And they never stop coming.

    • Waffle

      But with class and style :}.}.}

    • Clink9

      They’ve yet to meet a tax they didn’t like.

  • Reader


    Pan Am HOV lane ‘lessons’ will make toll lanes easier: Wynne


    • Doug Kursk

      Leftists are all about the ‘lessons’ learned, either willingly or coercively.

      In certain cases, a reluctance to learn the ‘correct’ lesson can earn you a trip to a star chamber or a re-education camp.

      Soon, the only difference between Stalinist Siberia and a future Wynnetario Timmins gulag will be bigger black flies and heretical confessions made in English.

      • Reader

        I was going to say that if they could, they would tax the air we breathe, but that is exactly the idea behind Wynne and Trudeau’s “Carbon” fees.

    • Clausewitz

      She’s also toying with that idea so loved by the progressives, “Photo Radar” for governing speed limits. This of course will come after still instills a 30 kph limit within Urban areas. Another day, another tax grab.

  • David Murrell

    Anthony Furey is upset at the HOV lanes, but, from the opposite point of view, at least the fat-cat Pan Am officials and the preferred ruling government people have it easy, whisked fast as they are along these wonderful lanes.

    And, indeed, the Globe and Mail seems to like the idea of HOT lanes, given the fine, efficient operation of the HOV lanes, in this supportive, I-agree-with-Kathleen article:

    All we need now is for CBC News to agree with the Globe, and a complete consensus is then achieved.

  • Billy Bob Thornton

    Ontario needs more ways to generate revenue and get business coming at the same time with its enormous debt. As someone that supports minor parties in Ontario and federally what Canada needs to erase its debt is something along the lines of wealth generators like Gazprom or Statoil because even federally the debt is enormously high. I actually feel that most politicians have not intention of ever paying off the debt. This whole HOT idea from HOV is just borrowed from the Pan Am games and is just an idea to see what Ontarians think. Frankly, Ontario has to cut somewhat, but that is not the only thing that will save Ontario. This all goes back to 2008. Ontario lost 300,000 jobs just prior to right after that 2008 recession/depression, and the truth is we cannot compete with Chinese and Indian wages. That is the real thing that we have to talk about. With those taxpayers gone and things racing to the bottom, it seems as if economies in the West are being hollowed out. That is why I think Ontario should have more protectionism and ways to keep jobs here, rather than agree to more privatization, lower wages and outsourcing manufacturing, which seems as if it will happen anyways. In fact, protectionism built Japan and South Korea. We need to make things again, and not follow US style economics!

    • DMB

      Ontario doesn’t have a revenue problem it has a spending problem i.e. $1 billion for closing the Oakville, Mississauga gas plants.

    • Clausewitz

      Ontario does not have a tax problem, it has a spending problem, and will continue to have it as long as Wynne remains in power.

    • Minicapt

      Billy-Bob has a thinking problem: he doesn’t.


  • Exile1981

    Don’t worry certain people will be allowed a pass on their vehicle that will allow them to use the HOV lanes even with a single occupant. Now you peons will not be allowed to buy those passes but don’t worry your lords and masters will have them so that way you’ll know how important they are.

  • Bernie

    HOT lanes should be made available to all those that pay Ontario income Taxes. After all, we already paid once for the highway. Now if you have a job that has taxes deducted at source, you should have the right to use the HOV/HOT att all times at all occupancy levels.

  • DMB

    Today it will be HOV toll lanes tomorrow it will be HOT roads on all 400 series highways. John Tory’s support for HOT lanes is revolting while Wynne is not surprising to say the least since it will become more difficult and expensive for someone living outside of Toronto to want to visit there. There are far more easier and affordable places in Ontario to visit i.e. Niagara Falls and John Tory just further turned me off in visiting Toronto anytime in the near future. Eventually when Ontario becomes insolvent expect all 400 series highways to become privatized just like the 407.

    • Clausewitz

      I fixed that. I never go to Toronto, ever. They don’t appreciate my money, so screw em.

  • mauser 98

    so a vehicle with 3+ occupants driving in a HOT lane will pay toll?
    therefore: 1 or 2 occupants in vehicle pay toll and get fined?