Lies Damn Lies and then there's Statistics - Mark Twain

Tallying Right-Wing Terror vs. Jihad

How much should we worry about Islamic terrorism? How much should we worry about other kinds?

There’s no exact right answer to this question. Who is out there in dark places plotting murder most foul? We can only guess, using imperfect information. Of course, there’s “imperfect” and then there’s downright distorted.

The New York Times highlighted one data set recently, in an article headlined “Homegrown Extremists Tied to Deadlier Toll Than Jihadists in U.S. Since 9/11.” “Since Sept. 11, 2001,” the article says, “nearly twice as many people have been killed by white supremacists, antigovernment fanatics and other non-Muslim extremists than by radical Muslims: 48 have been killed by extremists who are not Muslim, including the recent mass killing in Charleston, S.C., compared with 26 by self-proclaimed jihadists, according to a count by New America, a Washington research center.” The article goes on to cite a nationwide survey of police and sheriffs departments, noting that “74 percent listed antigovernment violence, while 39 percent listed ‘Al Qaeda-inspired’ violence, according to the researchers.” Well, I guess that settles that, then.

Ah, no. You’ve been reading this column too long to believe that. Statistics are useful, but fragile. How you handle them makes a big difference.


The Star among other lazy MSM useful idiots for Islam has been peddling this tripe.

Never believe their crap.

  • See here for a toll of Islamist terror victims:

    As of this writing, it stands at 26, 263.

    Any attempt to ignore this is shameful. Just shameful.

    • The left just lie so much they believe themselves.

      • It’s not just a lie; it’s madness. It’s a form of complicity.

      • dance…dancetotheradio

        You missed a third rail.
        Right wing terror vs Jihad vs left wing terror.
        Nobody mentions left wing terror.

        • andycanuck

          Yes. The NBC report that started this, without any evidence, strongly implied that all the 60% (or whatever) of non-Islamic terror incidents were done by white Rightists by assuming “non-Islamic” meant “white” and that “white” meant “Right Wing” when there are plenty of active Leftist terror groups like the New Black Panthers and all of the enviro terror groups like ELF and ALF that were, undoubtedly, responsible for the vast majority of that “other” 60% of terror attacks.

          I’m also assuming, because it’s the leftist-lib MSM, that clear actions of Islamic terror like the Ft Hood mass shooting haven’t been included in their totals (workplace violence!!!) and that any unsolved crime against a favoured political group, like the burning of a black church, has been ascribed to white terrorists when it is actually unknown.

  • Shebel

    If I was to answer a telephone survey today and was asked the questions—

    Do you think most Muslims want to kill you——–?
    Do you think that anal sex is normal…………….?
    Do you think that Children can be indoctrinated………?
    Do you see a correlation between Homosexuals and Islam…………..?
    Do you think that both USE the Children to expand their doctrine…….?

    I would probably answer the phone.

  • Ho Hum

    Michelle Sheppard who wrote the garbage in the Star is a big Muslim lover who even now is stupid enough to travel to places like Somalia and Syria. I hope on her next trip to Syria that she gets kidnapped ISIS. It may seem like a terrible thing to say but people like her who promote lies such as “white supremacists are a bigger threat than Islamists” are themselves a threat to society and it would not bother me one bit to see ISIS kidnap and decapitate her.

  • Martin B

    “Since Sept. 11, 2001…” In other words, let’s conveniently ignore the 3000 or so Americans slaughtered by the Muzz. If the KKK had somehow pulled off an attack that killed that many people, would anyone anywhere try to bury it this way?

  • Xavier

    The New York Times highlighted one data set

    And that’s all I have to say about that.

  • Ed

    As always, the Star shuts off the comment section on stories it prints not because they’re true, but because they’re trying to move the needle on public opinion. This story is so manifestly false the comments section would quickly fill with comments that would undermine the story in the minds of readers. The Star publishers know this, and so shut off the comments. Any time liberal papers shut off the comment section, know that the story is a big fat lie. Always.

  • Workplace Violence, is the closet where the’ve stashed all the bodies of Islam’s victims. Numbers don’t lie, liars lie.

  • Thermblog

    The treatment makes it seem that as long as “white” terror is greater then the Jihadi kind, all is OK. It ignores that Jihadi terror has probably been added to the pre-existing terror. More important, these numbers mean that 1% of the US population is producing about 1/3 of terror deaths. (The data ignored the Beltway sniper death toll of 10 BTW. There was a Jihadi link there.)

    Another part of the study looks at arrests. Here the Jihadis overshadow everyone else, and the 1% is responsible for 60%.

    I’d say this is a big backfire.

  • bverwey

    I guess Black live Don’t matter…… if they did Chicago alone would tip the scales in that survey.

    • lolwut?


  • John

    When jihadists do to the N.Y. Times editorial offices what they did in Mumbai, then, and only then, will we see a change in tone.
    Same with all the pols. It is only when the jihadists drive home their point in a very violent way, as in blowing up Westminster, will they fess up to what we’re facing.