Why are conservatives supporting Bill C-51?

“C-51 is the single most statist, freedom crushing piece of Canadian legislation passed by Parliament in my lifetime, which is saying quite a bit, given that I was alive during the only implementation of the War Measures Act in October, 1970.

The law is purportedly an anti-terrorist measure, but it actually says so much more than that. Things such as “disruption of the Canadian economy” are now classified as terrorist acts, which is overbroad and ripe for abuse. Groups on both the Left and the Right could be targeted under it.

Don’t believe me? Let’s see what a uniformed RCMP has to say about it.”

Much about C-51 is cause for concern.

I can’t help but wonder whether its introduction was due to Snowden’s “revelations” having compromised our defenses to such an extent that we are now at far greater risk than is publicly acknowledged.

Muslim terrorists have obviously benefited thanks to Snowden and recently word has surfaced that both China and Russia have decrypted the store of files he stole.

China was just implicated in a years long breach of US Government personnel files. It’s an ugly scary world out there.


  • canminuteman

    Do I think that C51 is a good bill? I don’t know, I haven’t read it. But you can either have a free country, or one that is swarming with muslims and communists who are trying to destroy it. Letting muslims in was a deliberate choice for some reason, and playing softball with people who are going out of their way to destroy the Canadian economy was a choice. People who trespass on private property to block pipelines and trains need to be punished to the full extent of the law. They weren’t, they became emboldened, they are well financed, well supported, and their goal is to take us back to the stone age. Assuming that C51 is needed to stop these type of things, the danger is that it is used against us by the crypto commies when they get power.

    Frankly, I think we are doomed. No government is going to stop muslim immigration even if the RCMP has to use al its resources to stop them from killing us once they’re here, and left wing political groups are getting stronger all the time. Left wing politics could kill our oil industry, and what’s left of the Ontario economy likely won’t survive the Wynne government. And the worse it gets, the more people will think we need even more leftism to fix it. I am not optimistic about the future.

    • Sigh… It is difficult to think of the future as anything but a bleak expanse of violence.

      • granny47

        In this world yes, I agree, but for Christians there are better times coming.

        Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
        2 Peter 3:13

        And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
        Revelation 21:1

        • Millie_Woods

          Yes, but I want this life to be good and peaceful too. I want it all!

    • Alain

      I am of the same opinion. As for putting an end to those seeking to disrupt and even destroy the economy, most of whom are funded by foreigners, I have no problem. The question however remains – will this finally be enforced?

      I should say that the main problem I continue to have with this new law is that had the already existing laws been enforced following the rule of law, there would not be a need for it. So if existing laws are pretty much ignored (Caledonia for example), why add more laws to cover the same criminal activity. We have a serious problem with a total disconnect between the will of Parliament and the bureaucracy to say nothing of the judiciary. There is plenty of evidence that the data from the long gun registry was not destroyed contrary to the decision of Parliament (High River & other examples), and we continue to see bureaucrats ignoring and thumbing their nose at decisions made by Parliament. This cannot continue.

      • If foreign funding is proven then the perps should be treated as saboteurs in the employ of foreign agents.

        • Clausewitz

          I’d go the next step and treat them as traitors. Just like in a good old Clint Eastwood movie, Hang ’em High.

  • Millie_Woods

    All of your database are belong to us.

  • mobuyus

    The left make a big stink about this because they and their children and friends are most likely to be ensnared in this bill as accidental terrorists who were just trying to put their social justice educations to work. Idle no more(but most of the time) and occupy jerks and animal liberationists and anti oil luddites worry big time about this bill, and people that dream of planting bombs and taking it to the man had better worry.

    • I suspect I will be arrested for running this blog;)

      • mobuyus

        Only if the jihadi ndp or liberals win the next election.

      • dance…dancetotheradio

        I am Spartacus.

      • Clausewitz

        I’m waiting for the day when our socialist overlords start rounding up conservative old style teachers just like in China’s Cultural Revolution. I will not go quietly into the night.

  • Tokenn

    One of the most important considerations for any legislation touching on human rights [if not the MOST important] is how it could be abused, both by the present bureaucracy, as well as future governments. The incredible kerfuffel over Section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act, the so-called “hate speech provision,” should have been a red flag for the current government that this is an extremely serious matter, and that some measure established with good intentions [I’ll be optimistic here] can all too easily by perverted into oppression.

    [Sigh]. The CPC is _not_ paying attention to reality. I don’t thing C-51 would even be necessary if we had a robust public forum and clear criminal laws regarding political violence and lawlessness. A commitment to freedom and traditional Western values is a far better defense than secrets and lawless intelligence services.

    • Section 13 is the perfect example of how a well intended law can be corrupted.

      • Brenda2600

        In my opinion, C-51 is necessary as some provinces (ON, QUE) are not enforcing the law in the special interest groups. This law allows CSIS and other groups to get more information without the provinces.

  • DD_Austin

    The reason we’re at risk is because we’re stupid
    We have “cyber” attacks by china because computers with that security data
    is plugged into the internet, that is about as stupid as it gets. Computer security

    Why are we stupid? Because we lost the cold war

    Russia started politically subverting our universities back in 1930, and that led to the subversion of our government and media, university grads all. We may have bankrupted Russia, but Russia made our “elite” batshit crazy

    Russia lost partial control over some territory, and lost the warsaw pact, We
    lost the entire middle east, India, SW asia, almost all of africa and parts of latin america.

    So next time some transvestite marxist gets elected, remember Stalin