David Starkey says mean things about Islam and free speech

Good thing Ed Millipede didn’t make it into Downing Street or Starkey would probably be talking to the police right now.

  • Mehdi Hassan, is an Islamist liar, a despicable sickening pig.

    • Martin B

      In other words, a Muslim.

      • BillyHW

        By definition.

    • disqus_W6sf

      You can say that again. He hasn’t looked at history at all. I’m surprised they allowed Starkey to speak as long as did. He is so eloquent and right.

      • Billy Bob Thornton

        But the fact is parties want these divisions to keep us squabbling. Someone on BCF said to me that Russia and China are eating our lunch. Well it is obvious why. Russia and China are making deals and not making wars while we are simply wanting more conflict and more war economy. If we had well run societies, then people wouldn’t be distracted by wars, politicians dividing us and debates being turned into name-calling. The objective of the political class is divide, divide, divide and Mehdi is correct because in Europe you cannot question Israel in some nations. You cannot question the bankers and their role in the financial crisis. So to suggest that societies are free is rubbish. It has more to do with what the issues of the day are. Even Stalin indicated that the public would be so brainwashed that the people would eventually only talk about the issues being brought up by the newspapers because the average person would as a result know nothing. That is how scared people are about the political class and wanting real discussions rather than being divided. A free people are those that challenge conventional thought and don’t go along with it. People seem to think that freedom means acting tough and wanting war. No it isn’t. It means wanting new ideas and if possible challenging the political class. Remember after the American Revolution the US had multiple candidates running for president. Now it has an oligarchy. So there is no democracy or real freedom.

        • Billy Bob Thornton

          But yes at the same time I agree with Starkey except that I doubt he advocates war but he feels that a renaissance must occur in Islam which I definitely agree with.

          • Clink9

            I’m serious. Have you ever thought of starting your own website to publish your short stories? You could talk back to yourself all day.

        • Minicapt

          You should perhaps make a major life-style change, and begin to read “history”. Then you might discover how many opponents George Washington faced in 1788/9. And both Russia and China are exercising their national capacities for unnecessary bellicosity.


        • Some European countries have laws against Holocaust denial which, like David Starkey, I deplore on free speech grounds. The statement “… in Europe you cannot question Israel in some nations” is utterly ridiculous.

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    • Justin St.Denis

      That is pretty obvious. He’s got a really punchable face, too.

    • sheikyermami

      A ratbastard.

  • Martin B

    Millipede would have been worse, but with Imam Cameron in charge I’d still bet that plenty of Britons will do time in pokey for saying mean things about Islam.

    • El Martyachi

      He can, in theory, be less of a cocksucker now that the libdems don’t hold the balance of power anymore.

      • No, Clegg was the Lib Dem creep. Miliband was the Labour creep. They’ve both resigned.

        Cameron of course is the Tory creep.

        • El Martyachi

          Oh i thought Cameron previously had a minority parliament requiring libdem support.

          • andycanuck

            Yes; and it was a coalition government even and not a minority.

        • El Martyachi

          Oh think I get it now – referent was Cameron not Millipede..

  • BillyHW

    What bizarro-world does this faggot-nazi-muslim-ape-piece-of-faeces come from?

  • dukestreet

    I find it very difficult to imagine CH refusing to publish something about Christianity because of the possible”outrage” of Christians. When Christians are outraged they do some or all of the following: nothing,right a letter to the editor, publish a rebuttal in another magazine, complain to the paper on Facebook or twitter , demonstrate peacefully or similar things.

    Muslims when outraged,kill as many as possible as we have seen many times. I don’t see how a paper which would be willing to take the risk of offending Muslims, knowing what they are likely to do, would be the slightest bit concerned about offending Christians. I suspect Mehdi is lying as of course he is allowed to do by his religion.

  • The first speaker is clearly naive or a liar.

    How many people died because of “Pi$$ Christ”? Perhaps he can answer that.

    Why is Mohammad exempt from any commentary or criticism? The man was a pedophile. One cannot even say that.

    David Starkey is spot-on. Europe transformed and the Islamic world did not. It wasn’t because it offend X belief. It was because it could rise above primitivism that it could criticise or offend and not end up as Pakistan because of it.

    • WalterBannon

      muslims are evil and need to be dealt with

  • Shebel

    All I know is that if Mohammed was ever to return and start preaching his pathetic Message in Canada –then we would be forced to lock him up and put him in a padded cell .
    We have enough frigging crazies running around.

    • WalterBannon

      there are millions just like him, in every mosque, and every where you find muslims AND OUR TREASONOUS GOVT DOES NOTHING BUT BRING MORE OF THEM

  • pdxnag

    Islam needs to treated with all the disgust and mockery of any political party. The 57 members of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) seem in agreement that Islam sits at the top of “government” itself. This makes a mockery of attempts to reframe every Islam-related issue into one of a comparison with other harmless-religion x y or z. It is inapposite.

    The Pakistani Muslim rape gangs are engage in politics, practicing the Islamic political tool of subjugation and terror. It makes for a perfect metaphor for the role that Islam plays in any Western enlightened (formerly enlightened) society.

    Free speech is not a cover for criticism of Islam. Calling Islam a religion is cover for exempting Islamic thugs who rule from criticism. Free speech means nothing if does not allow criticism of people who rule, and Islam is all about who rules and requires that only Muslims may rule.

  • Jim Horne

    All one has to do is to watch any MSM news report to know that Shariah law is already here. Any form of self censorship, any form of accommodation is a death knell for freedom.

    People like David Starkey, Pamalea Gellar, Ezra Levant, Brian Lilley, Mark Steyn, Judge Jeanine Pirro and countless others must continue to so discredit the apologists of Islam that they dread any public form of discussion.

    Judge Jeanine Pirro: Free speech in America is non-negotiable