Ten interesting things about the NDP win in Alberta

Ezra has ten thoughts on Alberta’s switch to Communism.

Alberta election 2015: Energy sector braces for change with NDP win

I want to know who will pick up the slack in transfer payments to Have-Not-Ontario now that Alberta will become Venezuela North.

  • kkruger71

    Now I really don’t know the numbers involved, but I wonder how much of an impact the displaced people from Ontario, B.C., and the Atlantic provinces that have been flooding out there for years to find work might have made in this election. I know their numbers aren’t enough to have tilted a whole election, but are they the difference between a majority and minority government? Is their fear of a “radical right wing” party like Wildrose enough to have held them out of power?

    • It’s a good question, and I would not be at all surprised to find it did have a quantifiable influence.

      As I recall, but the numbers may have changed a bit from last night, the NDP got 40% of the popular vote, the PC’s 28 and WR 23.

      • AmicusC

        the thing that surprised me most about this election was 28% for the pc’s after all the bungles they still got 1/3 the vote. just crazy. hopefully wrp does well as opposition and can form the next gov.

        • It was a surprise t me as well, lets the Smithless WRP can grow.

  • The Goat

    Has Jim Prentice ever not been a loser at everything?

  • Richardson McPhillips

    Might be a sign for the next federal election. A significant number of conservatives might decide the Conservative Party is not worth the oxygen. Of course they might regret it in two years, but in the meantime how else to send a message?

    • The Trudeau factor is huge, most people possess common sense, they know Hair Boy is empty headed and will act on the whims of his advisers, Alberta for one could not sustain both an NDP gov’t and Trudeau’s adviser Butts, whose policy “ideas” helped eviscerate Ontario’s economy.

      • WalterBannon

        If Trudeau was not the alternative I might have been staying home on election day.

      • Richardson McPhillips

        Perhaps most people possess common sense, I have lived in Quebec for 15 years so I forgot that there are reasonable people left in Canada.

  • lolwut?

    Alberta has been turning into a mini africa the last decade, now this.

    Should be interesting.

  • Glenfilthie

    Holy Puck.
    I live here and wonder what in hell happened last night! I am hoping the bulk of the Dipper power base is in oil and gas. I am also hoping that when they get their pink slips, that these low IQ/low skill immigrants pack up and go back home!
    Thank God I have no debts and a slush fund. I’m not rich…but (for now) I’m free.

  • doowleb

    Now that the Liberals who had usurped the PC party have been spanked, hopefully the two right parties can have their own Reform/PC moment and send the leftists back to their union/non profit fiefdoms. I think 4 years in the political woodshed is far superior to the conservative party in name only keeping control with no actual conservative ideologies. The people of Alberta are better off with 4 years of pain than a future with no real conservative party. The Alberta Progressive Conservatives, extremely heavy on the progressive part and only giving lip service to the conservative part during election campaigns. All while their failed progressive policies are being blamed on the conservative brand by the mendacious media.

    • Glenfilthie

      But it won’t be four yeas of pain, Doowleb. We will be paying for these bung holes for the next 15 years and maybe even 20.

      I personally have no beef with Prentice – but that hatchet faced skank, Allison Redford? That hag should be behind bars! And Fast Eddy? He was an idiot. I agree that the PC’s had to go to the woodshed, but Alberta doesn’t deserve to go with them. The Wild Rose would have been a far less painful ‘wake-up call’ than the NDP.

      • doowleb

        As with Ontario, it appears the low info types require personal pain for training in common sense. I fear the economic repercussions but do admit some schadenfreude as an Ontario conservative whose been smugly belittled by conservative westerners for quite some time. Welcome to our nightmare and ongoing battle.. Remember when you stir up shat, someone always comes along who forces you to lick the spoon.

        • Glenfilthie

          Well I have heaped my share of chit and abuse on the denizens of Morontario…but rest assured I have no problems doing the same to the stupid people in Alberta too! (Most of them are imported from out east anyways, HAR HAR HAR!)
          Everyone wil now be advised that our major export will no longer be oil and gas…but ignorance, incompetence and stupidity! You guys out east beware – the parasites out here are going to want to eat YOUR lunch now, for a change!

    • Ontario’s PC party is really no better or worse than Alberta’s, the main difference is those with a vested interest in milking the tax payer dry are a far more powerful voting block than the rank and file citizen.

      There is no way Ontario will a conservative government again, not even after the inevitable bankruptcy.

      • doowleb

        For my children’s and grandchildren’s sake I hope you’re wrong. As with all things, I believe politics is cyclical and the pendulum will indeed swing back. I would have a personal hope that when it does swing back there will be thousands of leftists and media types with whiplash.

        • It just won’t happen, the bureaucracy has effectively become the ruling class in Ontario. We are hit twice by hosting not only Ontario’s public service but also much of the federal government’s as well.

    • AmicusC

      there is a conservative option and they are currently the official opposition.

      • Yet by all reason they could have run a broomstick as leader last time and achieved the same result.

        If they cannot win against this Liberal crime organization they never will.

        • AmicusC

          disagree. Danielle really screwed over trust in the party by defecting as leader. jean had been on job two days before the writ was dropped. once he has time to show his credentials fully as a leader there will be more conservative votes flocking that way.
          Edmonton has always been more left of the rest of the province and that gave the commies a base to launch against the rest of alberta. remember going in wrp only had 5 seats many many people here thought the party was essentially done and voting for them was throwing away the vote. this has shown it isn’t.
          even the debate was mostly nolty vs prentice as most thought she would simply be stealing votes to give pc’s a minority.

  • Billy Bob Thornton

    Too bad for Levant that there is a communist party in Alberta. By all accounts, the NDP is moderate centrist because Alberta has been right wing for years and they have had to change with the times. The fact is Alberta will continue to suffer because of poor decisions, short-term policies and they have put all their eggs in one basket.

    Tax cuts have shown to not be the main advantage because it takes more to run an economy than lowering your taxes. Don’t forget about Ireland’s tax cut rate for corporations. They were the lowest in the world and they still have economic troubles. There is more problems with corruption, collusion and cronyism in many Western countries that prevent growth.

    The NDP are in essence New Labour.

    Neoliberalism to me doesn’t work because it constantly favours the rich and the well-connected and there has never been substantial growth for those at the bottom and the middle and that is why we need to move towards state capitalism rather than the current fascist economics we currently have.

  • Billy Bob Thornton

    The NDP are also a long way off from being communists or even socialists back during the day of the CCF.

    The fact is social democracy has accepted neoliberalism like during the Blair years, the Brown years, the Hollande years.

    Just raising taxes doesn’t make a nation socialist.

    Socialism means the workers owning the means of production by democratizing workplaces. It also means public ownership of most parts of the economy, but not entirely. It also means state enterprises to bring wealth like in Norway. I see no plans for that.

    This sounds like social liberalism.

    The NDP aren’t even social democrats because they are not proposing state intervention in social housing, child care and more money for post-secondary.

    That is why it benefits people to know about ideology.

    The fact is nationalist policies would be better for Alberta since at least they could call for radical ways to remove most of their debt. Mainstream parties play shell games and refuse to tackle critical issues. They care about using debt as a way to win rather than doing what Russia did in 1998. The same with Argentina in 2001.

    • Minicapt

      Amazing how far one can chatter with no knowledge of the subject. Like the Aussie Labor Party, the Dippers are members of Socialist International, previously sponsored by the KGB and friends.


  • Bataviawillem

    The TSX spoke today, it is a red rash all over the stock list.

  • Brett_McS

    Prairie Socialists, ha! The socially conservative Country Party (now National Party) in Australia was once known colloquially as the Rural Socialists.

  • Alison Redford destroyed the Tories’ chances. Prentice was the nail in the coffin.

  • dance…dancetotheradio

    My socialist buddy at work today pounced on me this morning.
    Wondered if I was crying in my beer last night.
    I said, yes it was a surprising result, but I’m not too worried about it.
    He said, well Harper must be quaking in his boots, now.
    I don’t think so, I said.
    We just got rid of the Progressive conservative party in Alberta.
    The Danielle Smith turncoats are gone.
    Wild Rose is the Official Opposition with a new leader.
    And the NDP have four years to make their never again statement starting with their first budget.
    There’s six new Federal seats in Alberta, eight in B.C. and fifteen in Ontario.
    Three provinces who have unpopular provincial governments who are not Conservative.
    The NDP win in Alberta is the best result we could have expected heading into a federal election.
    It’s not a trend.
    It’s a counterweight.
    He couldn’t dim my optimism and gave up.

    • El Martyachi