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Terror in Australia: the Question No One Wants to Ask

“…This terror drama has been reported on ad infinitum by experts and journalists. Among the mass of commentary, it is striking that there is one area of discussion where the commentators have dared not tread. One caller in a talk-back programme on radio hinted at this unmentionable topic when he claimed that in fact there was support for terror activity in the Qur’an. The radio presenter quickly cut him off, declaring that such statements were inappropriate and, besides, the non-Muslim caller was not qualified to speak about the Qur’an.

In fact, the censored caller was making an important point, about which there has been a deafening silence in the flood of commentary taking place about this incident in Australia. That is the question as to whether the violent actions of such radical Islamists have any foundation in the religion of Islam.”

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  • disqus_PwGxBXHn8l

    There is no solution to the problem unless people start cutting off the media who prevent serious questions from being discussed. The question ISN’T why is Joe Airhead doing that but why are YOU listening? Seek sources that do ask the questions and discuss them in a thoughtful evidence-based manner. And defend their right to continue to do so.

    • It’s our only recourse.

    • winniec

      …cultural Marxists in the media and politicians do not want their allies (the jihadists) criticized.
      Georg Lukacs founded cultural Marxism. He asked: “Who will save us (Marxists) from European civilization?” The answer is the Muslim savages will destroy Western civilization for the Marxists. The noble savages can do no wrong! When Muslims commit atrocities, it isn’t an atrocity when they do it…it’s justifiable REVOLUTIONARY RAGE!

    • Justin

      As a non-Western person, the most bizarre, the most disgusting, the most sickening, the most weird, the most strange, the most sinister, the most repulsive, the most ghastly and the most nauseating reaction to islamic terrorist incidents that I have learned IN THE West, is the huge and the totally uncalled-for-support that Western spineless societies, whether they are Australian or Canadian or others offer to Muslims after an islamic terrorists attack anywhere in the Western world. (Remember the Hamilton muslim-supporting drama after two Canadian soldiers where murdered by islamic terrorists in Canada just a few weeks ago). This shows me that the Western society has become profoundly and hopelessly STUPID and is absolutely detached from common sense reality. It would BE VERY HIGHLY ADVISABLE FOR THE WESTERN SOCIETIES TO COMMIT ONE MASS SUICIDE OR BECOME SLAVES FOR MUSLIMS WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT.

  • winniec

    Guess what all you gullible do-gooders?…Muslims don’t want your friendship.
    Koran 5:51 warns Muslims against “taking the Jews and Christians as friends and allies … whoever among you takes them for friends and allies, he is surely one of them,” i.e., he becomes a non-believing “infidel,” the worst thing in Islam. According to al-Tabari, Koran 5:51 means that a Muslim who “allies with them [disbelievers] and enables them against the believers, that same one is a member of their faith and community.” Similar verses are Koran 3:28, 4:89, 4:144, 5:54, 6:40, 9:23, and 58:22. Muslims do not befriend non-Muslims — “even if they be their fathers, sons, brothers, or kin.”

    • The Liberal Left are dumb as a sack of hammers.

    • My caveat would be: not all Muslims are devout. There is no moderate Islam, but there are a lot of Muslims who just aren’t very Muslim.

      • moraywatson

        Are there any muslims who don’t know they are muslims when they are asked?

        • There are a lot of Muslims who don’t practice much Islam.

          Look, it does say in the Koran that Muslims mustn’t take infidels as friends. One of my close friends is Jordanian. The most Islamic thing about her is that she will do this tedious fasting during Ramadan, but other than that her Islam is almost completely nominal. That’s not atypical, especially in Muslims from the relatively more civilized countries (as Jordan is).

          Being a seriously devout Muslim is a very tedious full-time job. Very few people given a choice want every aspect of their life micromanaged in that kind of way.

          • moraywatson

            So the answer is “No”.

          • To your odd question that has nothing to do with my initial comment? Yes, the answer is “no”. At least, there may be some Muslims who are under the impression that they’re Jehovah’s Witnesses or something, but I don’t know of any.

          • Jason

            And if push came to shove and some more zealous and practicing of her co-religionists started to pressure her, or the other nominal muslims like her, to follow their religion more devotedly, and begin practicing such nice things as hatred toward infidels and gays, suppression of free speech in the name of sharia, etc? Would she resist and apostatize (and risk death thereby)? Or would she capitulate?
            I am not trying to impugn her character or her personally, just to point out that she and other muslims like her subscribe, albeit nominally, to a horrible, hate-filled, violent ideology and I worry that under the right circumstances (which our continued influx of more devout muslims might provide) they will turn on us.
            Perhaps my concerns are misplaced; I hope so.

          • She left her sleazebag husband and moved to Canada with her sons on her own. She knows quite a few Muslims – they aren’t devout either – but she’s not part of any Jordanian “community”. Her family back home are self-consciously semi-secularized. When she was a little girl she tried a hijab on for fun and her father told her to take it off and keep it off.

            So, no, I’m not too worried about her becoming radicalized. People who are under a lot of community pressure, yes, that’s definitely a concern.

          • Most people want/need some kind of religion. If you’re a decent person, and not crazy, and Islam’s all you’ve got to work with, you make the best of it. This basically involves blocking out a huge portion of the religion, but that is what a lot of people do.

          • ntt1

            Iran used to be virtually secular, as was turkey and egypt I agree with what you are saying but things can change and for the worse very quickly, How can we insure that non practicing muslims are not just sleepers.I know that sounds kinda manchurian candidate, but I know a few persian refugees from the khomaniist regime and they talk of the over night fervancy that swept that nasty old crank into power. it took many by surprise

      • The Goat

        Yeah, and not every German…

  • winniec

    Q: Do violent actions of Islamists have any foundation in the religion of Islam?
    A: Yes. “Turhibunna” (terrorize them) K.8.60 and 162 other jihad verses.

  • The MSM outlets continue to make their brands valueless.

    Why should anyone believe their analysis when they so blatantly cover for Islam.

    Last evening I listened to MSM hide the truth about the Sydney attack.

    The PC wonks who control the legacy MSM ignore, at their peril, the simple fact they no longer have a monopoly on reporting.

    The MSM has become the PC version of “The National Enquirer”. Too bad for them.

  • disqus_PwGxBXHn8l

    The most important thing to do right now is cut off all government funding of legacy media, because the gov-funded jobbies tend to be easy homes for unserious people. They are unserious in many ways, but this one is dangerous.

    A privately funded organization can insist that there is no specific problem with Islamic terror if its consumers, subscribers and supporters believe that. It’s their right to be wrong.

    What’s indefensible is public support for nonsense that can exist only in some such bubble at a time when rational assessments – from many directions, with many intents – are only a few keystrokes away.

    And DEFEND free speech.

    Are any Aussies reading this discussion?

  • roccolore

    “I’ll ride with you”, said no liberals to British soldiers after Woolwich, whites after Cronulla, white British girls who were victims of grooming gangs, Jews after repeated attacks…

    • disqus_PwGxBXHn8l

      Again, I say, it’s the people who listen who keep the groomed media in power. They are no longer gatekeepers of news, so people who listen to them should be presumed to want to hear misleading explanations, so as to avoid hard questions.